tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post3885469600769007114..comments2023-08-10T06:32:38.601-04:00Comments on By Their Strange Fruit <a name="top"> </a>: Michael Brown. Ferguson. BTSF:http://www.blogger.com/profile/02553697351488297764noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-73646035533883361192014-08-19T22:00:03.246-04:002014-08-19T22:00:03.246-04:00Absolutely!Absolutely!BTSFbloghttp://bytheirstrangefruit.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-26629206673544796632014-08-19T21:51:16.448-04:002014-08-19T21:51:16.448-04:00@BTSF: Hope you pass it along as well.@BTSF: Hope you pass it along as well.Mary Burrellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-47561432948959480902014-08-19T21:42:48.855-04:002014-08-19T21:42:48.855-04:00Thank you for passing it along!Thank you for passing it along!BTSFbloghttp://bytheirstrangefruit.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-57202988819141394032014-08-19T20:21:03.539-04:002014-08-19T20:21:03.539-04:00What we do know is an unarmed teen was shot execut...What we do know is an unarmed teen was shot execution style and there needs to be justice.Mary Burrellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-14133527118767947732014-08-19T19:51:37.629-04:002014-08-19T19:51:37.629-04:00Thanks for recognizing the petition i forwarded to...Thanks for recognizing the petition i forwarded to you. Thanks for your work in anti-racism. Bless you.Mary Burrellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-82368057452187329712014-08-19T17:38:26.433-04:002014-08-19T17:38:26.433-04:00Did you read the entire story?
It has plenty of mi...Did you read the entire story?<br />It has plenty of misinformation and conjecture and refers to Brown as being murdered yet all of the facts are not there. The article is laden with hatred and disdain for white people although cleverly weaved in there subtly as possible.Diamanical Johnsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-78263104626106570352014-08-19T16:29:37.090-04:002014-08-19T16:29:37.090-04:00He was in a car exchanging gunfire with the police...He was in a car exchanging gunfire with the police, Do you KNOW they were aiming at his hip?. <br />It is _possible_ that Brown continued charging the officer after being hit, in fact there is testimony from a resident of the housing project that corroborates that possibility, it is in the background of a video clip that was posted by another resident.<br /><br /><br />Shooting someone for not getting on the sidewalk is unacceptable, it seems that you really want to hear that because you are stressing on it so, but that is not what happened.<br /><br /><br />The policeman told them to get out of the road. Rather than just follow this reasonable request/order they told the cop that they would be where they were going in a minute. What kind of mentality does it take to want to hold everyone up for yourself, if you have any doubts or reservations that the refusal didn't have anything to do with it being a cop or a white cop or a combination of the two you are delusional. The police officer most certainly was doing his job when he asked them to get out of the road, but they were not having it and were not going to cooperate. When the police officer came at them Brown reacted, not as a person that was being confronted with something akin to jaywalking but more like someone that says "Fuck me, I'm not going down for a robbery" and there was a struggle and a confrontation. It has nothing to do with what the cop knew at the time, it was what Brown knew and thought was happening that caused him to react the way he did.<br /><br /><br />That is the most likely scenario given all the known facts.<br /><br /><br />We already know that he wasn't shot 3-5 times in the back , we know that he wasn't shot 6 times in the back while he was on his knees with his hands up, or 8 times in the back while running away as some of these 'eyewitnesses' have said.<br />The family's autopsy at least the preliminary one disproves all of those, and is not conclusive as to whether his hands were up in the air or down but looking at the entry point I have to say it doesn't look like they were raised in the air.<br /><br /><br />Question: Do you think that a police officer of 6 years with no prior disciplinary actions would for no other reason than he woke up that day and wanted to go out and kill him a black boy would do so in broad daylight where he was?Diamanical Johnsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-28661528028032192162014-08-19T14:32:54.751-04:002014-08-19T14:32:54.751-04:00This after the blogger starts off by saying how im...This after the blogger starts off by saying how important staying informed and knowing the full story is. Then proceeds to completely missinform by only giving part of the story.NSZnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-544146794151045802014-08-19T13:55:56.976-04:002014-08-19T13:55:56.976-04:00This is such a pathetic and sad excuse for journal...This is such a pathetic and sad excuse for journalism. You start this article by stressing the importance of staying informed and getting the "full story". You then immediately start telling ONE side of the story, and leaving out key pieces of information, to scew people's opinions and support your claims. You fail to mention how these "multiple witnesses" have been almost completely discredited by the autopsy reports. Remember he was running away and shot in the back? Maybe the racist cop also had magical bullets, who knows. You don't mention any other witness reports claiming brown rushed the officer, although the evidence we do have seems to support those claims a lot more than the he was surrendering or shot in the back claims. Also in the presser they specifically said the officer knew nothing about the robbery. It didn't just "turn out" that way later, they were very upfront that Wilson knew nothing of the robbery when he stopped brown. These two instances of blatent miss interpretation of the real story and the facts come within the first few paragraphs of you saying how important staying informed is. <br /><br />Ignorant writers like you are the reason people DONT get the full story, and don't stay informed. This article informed me that you will lie and use another death to push your race agenda. Do the world a favor and stop writing completely. Everyone who read this article is now dumber, and more misinformed. Great job. <br /><br />Try and say I'm wrong, I dare you.NSZnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-74253671232375404602014-08-19T02:12:38.885-04:002014-08-19T02:12:38.885-04:00OK, I said this as a Reply below (above?). but wan...OK, I said this as a Reply below (above?). but want it to stand alone:<br />I would like to suggest that without the peace of Jesus there is not <br />likely to be much justice, in this particular case or in the many other <br />circumstances of violent conflict and loss of life today, wherever <br />shalom is disrupted. Peacemaking in the way of Jesus requires a lot more<br /> than a litany rehearsing the problems or systemic solutions. "Peace without Jesus" suggests <br />there will be "no godly justice" to be seen in this world; no peace, no <br />justice. Perhaps we need fewer MennoNerds and more JesusGeeks; less of <br />us and more of Jesus. JSRichard Worden Wilsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-23647089711664410792014-08-19T02:09:24.442-04:002014-08-19T02:09:24.442-04:00I would like to suggest that without the peace of ...I would like to suggest that without the peace of Jesus there is not likely to be much justice, in this particular case or in the many other circumstances of violent conflict and loss of life today, wherever shalom is disrupted. Peacemaking in the way of Jesus requires a lot more than a litany rehearsing the problems. No peace with Jesus implies there is no godly justice to be seen in this world; no peace, no justice. Perhaps we need fewer MennoNerds and more JesusGeeks; less of us and more of Jesus. JSRichard Worden Wilsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-19216322731920340052014-08-19T01:04:52.367-04:002014-08-19T01:04:52.367-04:00It really isn't clarity to use the term "...It really isn't clarity to use the term "murder" before the facts are presented, it is a whole lot more like incitement.Richard Worden Wilsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-3766823749173066252014-08-18T22:51:02.077-04:002014-08-18T22:51:02.077-04:00Consider this:
A killing spree was perpetrated on...Consider this:<br /><br />A killing spree was perpetrated on May 23, 2014, in Isla Vista, California, near the campus of University of California, Santa Barbara, by 22-year-old Elliot Rodger. Rodger killed six people and injured thirteen others before committing suicide.[1][2]<br /><br />The spree began when Rodger stabbed to death three men in his apartment. Leaving the scene in his car, he drove to a sorority house, where he shot four people outside, killing two female students. He drove to a nearby delicatessen and shot to death a male student who was inside. He then sped through Isla Vista, shooting at pedestrians and wounding several of them, and striking four others with his car. Rodger exchanged gunfire with police twice during the killing spree, receiving a non-fatal gunshot to the hip.[2] The rampage ended when his car crashed into a parked vehicle and came to a stop. Police found him dead in the car, with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head.[3][4][5]<br /><br />So....the police aren't going to shoot to kill someone who is going on a massive killing spree (they shot him in the hip) but they shoot an unarmed black man five to six times to kill him? Do you not consider that a problem? Or what of the other incident of the black man who was shot for holding a toy gun? What did he do to merit death? As for the example you cite (Robert Arnold/James Whitehead)...of which you give no clarification, can you prove to us that this incident is something that happens often across communities so much so that it is a recognized pattern with countless other examples just like it...as is the case with unarmed black men? Or do you in fact have countless examples of police shooting and killing unarmed white men for bucking authority..."getting mouthy" as you said? <br /><br /><br />You mention that the police were just responding to an attitude problem..."The policeman told them to get out of the road and on the sidewalk, since this policeman was white this was an automatic 'dis' and had to be deal with accordingly, so instead of following this legal, reasonable simple request they got mouthy " 'cause ain't no white mofo gonna be tellin' us what to do ", which is the mentality that these kids are raised by. The policeman then tried to detain Brown who reacted violently and attempted to get away because he was worried about the robbery and being apprehended for it...<br /><br />...<br />...<br />Question: When a seventeen and eighteen year old white male also gets mouthy and bucks authority...a common trait found in most men of that age...does he merit the same treatment? Or do you really think having the wrong attitude is deserving of death? <br /><br /><br />Or do you still think the police officer was just doing his job and that this was proper procedure?Melissa Elizondonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-38146457927683548552014-08-18T22:08:23.851-04:002014-08-18T22:08:23.851-04:00Thanks for your kind words. Hopefully it helps spr...Thanks for your kind words. Hopefully it helps spread the storiesBTSFbloghttp://bytheirstrangefruit.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-1320708698629979612014-08-18T22:02:25.355-04:002014-08-18T22:02:25.355-04:00Stop.
No criminal record, much less a felon: http...Stop. <br />No criminal record, much less a felon: http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2014/08/13/michael-brown-had-no-criminal-record.html<br /><br />Autopsy report: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.htmlBTSFbloghttp://bytheirstrangefruit.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-3664497228098530252014-08-18T22:01:50.817-04:002014-08-18T22:01:50.817-04:00IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE POLICY, PLACE CAMERAS ON POL...IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE POLICY, PLACE CAMERAS ON POLICE OFFICERS UNIFORM, LIKE THE DASH CAM, AND I BET YOU COPS WILL THINK TWICE BEFORE THEY ABUSE THEIR AUTHORITY!!!Roosevelt Maldonadonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-88672401911939858482014-08-18T19:20:07.520-04:002014-08-18T19:20:07.520-04:00I'm sure that it matters none to you all but s...I'm sure that it matters none to you all but since the roles are reversed here...Diamanical Johnsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-38127763032032350412014-08-18T19:12:10.317-04:002014-08-18T19:12:10.317-04:00You correctly pointed out that when the officer ap...You correctly pointed out that when the officer approached Michael Brown it had nothing to do with the robbery, However, Brown did not know that, he already had felony charges with a gun from 2013, this may have been his 3rd strike. In any event he was not going to go down for that robbery no matter what and resisted, violently. The autopsy discredits all the 8 shots in the back testimony, it goes a long way to discredit the hands up in the air, because of the entry point in arm. How about some truth in your blog.Diamanical Johnsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-11704286390505745952014-08-18T18:39:23.063-04:002014-08-18T18:39:23.063-04:00Helpful and important resource. Thank you.Helpful and important resource. Thank you.brianleportnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-67908460859115567022014-08-18T14:48:29.190-04:002014-08-18T14:48:29.190-04:00Thank you. I'll try to continue to keep it up ...Thank you. I'll try to continue to keep it up to date. So many important stories that need to be heard.BTSFbloghttp://bytheirstrangefruit.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-15495073613922905502014-08-18T14:47:49.540-04:002014-08-18T14:47:49.540-04:00Some thoughts:
Donations are being accepted at t...Some thoughts: <br /><br />Donations are being accepted at the Michael Brown Memorial Fund: http://www.gofundme.com/justiceformikebrown<br /><br />There is a food drive for the students in Ferguson who depend on school lunches for meals (which they can't get now, since school has been canceled): https://fundly.com/feed-the-students-of-ferguson?ft_src=twtshare<br /><br />What Ferguson also needs is supplies (groceries, toilet paper etc...all being blocked from getting it atm). If you know anyone in the St. Louis area, contact them and see what channels have been set up for these things. <br /><br />They also need help in swaying the court of public opinion. Publicly supporting them can go a long way to getting friends to reconsider how they see the situation. There may be vigils and protest in nearby areas. If not, you may be able to start one and raise the issue of police behavior in your own community (this important for black and brown folks, as well as those living in poverty). <br /><br />You can also donate to the ACLU (https://www.aclu.org/) or the Southern Poverty Law Center (https://donate.splcenter.org/sslpage.aspx?pid=463)<br /><br />And be sure to remember all of the things we are seeing and learning when election season rolls around.<br /><br />Some other ideas here: http://heartlandunderdog.blogspot.com/2014/08/HelpFerguson.htmlBTSFbloghttp://bytheirstrangefruit.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-33151832042922943292014-08-18T14:28:44.843-04:002014-08-18T14:28:44.843-04:00This article is so thorough with so many important...This article is so thorough with so many important links and pieces of information that really shed light on what is going on in #Ferguson and in our black communities around the country.ebanna22noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-11052949811396499072014-08-18T13:20:05.547-04:002014-08-18T13:20:05.547-04:00Okay. I saw the petition just after I posted. I...Okay. I saw the petition just after I posted. I'll definitely have to get this in front of more people. Are there any other steps one can take?Melissa Elizondonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-9558150454676301942014-08-18T13:08:13.848-04:002014-08-18T13:08:13.848-04:00I've been discussing this with my husband and ...I've been discussing this with my husband and one of the problems we keep running into with racism/segregation is what do we do? It is one thing to know that there's a problem. But what steps do we take that will prevent something like this from occurring in the future? Because eventually this is going to fade from the media and then what? Back to the same old routine? What do ordinary people do to stop this from repeating?Melissa Elizondonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1475128319218423248.post-672814410450222382014-08-18T04:09:35.786-04:002014-08-18T04:09:35.786-04:00Thank you for bringing clarity and a call ...Thank you for bringing clarity and a call ...idelettehttp://www.idelette.comnoreply@blogger.com